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I have tried a number of things to confirm that this is really a problem and haven't found anything to suggest otherwise. You are welcome to point out the obvious if you can.

A user posted this new topic two hours ago (2:57 pm): Call for Papers - 2nd Int'l Workshop on Patent Information Retrieval (PaIR'09) .

Here is the hierarchy: Dashboard...Forum - PIUG-DF >Call for Papers - 2nd Intl Workshop on Patent Information Retrieval (PaIR09).

It should show up in the forum table on this forum page: Forum - PIUG-DF

However, it's not there in the table. The top entry (after the sticky topic) is one that was commented on subsequently to the problem topic, namely at 3:10 p.m. The subject topic is listed both in the pagetree2 listing in the left-side panel and in the list of children pages below the macro table.

I have reindexed the wiki site in case that could be a problem.

Is there something about the title of the subject posting or something else about its content that would explain why it isn't showing up in the forum table? Anything else I am missing?

This is an important posting. All suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks.


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  1. Unknown User (skrebs)

    does the topic page that isn't displaying have its own forum macro on it by any chance? That's the only thing I can think of immediately that might cause it not to display. (Based on the exclude sub forum param).

    Another thing to check is that there is no errors in the log file when topic page is reindexed.

  2. Unknown User (tewolff)

    After posting the same message in a Sandbox forum and having it show up properly, I finally noticed that the missing posting was indeed in the forum summary table but was entry 73 corresponding to its original creation date of March 23. It was edited today by the original author. The author must not have checked the "Minor Change?" box since I got an email message.

    Shouldn't the edited entry show up in the forum table per its new edit date? That would make sense. Is there something in the configuration that would keep this from happening? Or is it a "feature" or design "bug"?

    1. Unknown User (skrebs)

      The activity date is based on the creation date of the page (or the creation date of most recent comment).

      If you want to force a topic to the top of the activity date sort, you could simply add a new comment.

      I don't think you'd want the modified date used by default as a few automatic events like renaming linked pages could cause this to be updated unintentionally. I guess it would be handy to have the option of which one to use as a param but that would require the information to be added to the index first.

      1. Unknown User (tewolff)


        I see your point. I agree we don't want unintentional changes.

        In this case, the posting is for an upcoming conference and it is being updated as new details become available. I am very pleased that the author is modifying the old posting rather than creating a new one. So many of our users think in terms of email discussion lists and still don't realize that a new email message can be generated just as easily by editing a topic as creating a new one, and that it is generally better not to clutter the forum with new postings with substantially duplicated information. Another "bad" habit is commenting on one's own posting with an edit will do even better. In this particular case, the user has a lot of experience with Confluence in his day job.

        I'd hate encourage commenting for the sake of forcing a topic to the top of the forum summary table. There has got to be a better way. As a workaround, I made added a sticky to his posting. That is one good use for stickies. Maybe we can come up with another means of bringing edited posting to the top. I would appreciate your further consideration as you continue to improve CB and the forum macro. Thanks.

        1. Unknown User (skrebs)

          I think you've basically described one of the use cases for sticky topics, I'm not sure what other means you'd want for bringing edited topics to the top. If you brought the topic to the top of the list using a sticky flag, then it starts getting 'legitimate' comments you could remove the sticky flag then as the topic will be at the top of the list due to the comments being added.